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The Fanatical Mind, never thinks things through to allow the opponent’s arguments.
There is no good secular argument against same sex marriage. There are only laughably silly religious ones.
We’re just trying to protect the ideal situation, the “Mom and Dad”
family unit. The same one that most likely brought 99% of the readers of
this site into the world. Sorry if your parents split up, or if you
were raised by a single parent, or if you were molested by someone.
Kids need a mom and a dad….even this gay parent thinks so:
“We’re just trying to protect the ideal situation, the “Mom and Dad” family unit.”
This falls under the “laughably silly” argument tent.
That sad attempt at an argument has absolutely NOTHING to do with same sex marriage. If marriage was only about raising kids then older couples and infertile couples would be forbidden to marry.
Careful now, your tolerance is showing. /sarcasm
“Ideal” does not equal “only one that should be allowed”. “Ideal” also does not equal “only one capable of ever producing decent results”.
“Suboptimal” does not equal “bad”.
A single person’s opinion does not constitute scientific proof, regardless of that person’s identity.
Studies generally show that 2 parents are ideal (not necessarily heterosexual ones).
Not all married couples have kids. Should couples have to sign some sort of “fertility pledge”?
You imply that kids (like me) w/ divorced parents should be taken away from their families and/or that divorce should be outlawed, since these would not produce the supposedly optimal family unit.
And (what I assume is) your Bible was very approving of men having many wives and/or concubines.
To echo Mr. Caution, next.
Maybe this is how?
EETS NAHT A TOOMAH!
I think waste treatment plants are disgusting and gross. I don’t think they’re immoral or should be banned.
Whatever people think is “icky” is their right, but they shouldn’t hitch their personal morality to it.
Who needs that? Science has already made breakthroughs – all it takes is genetic reprogramming of one cell from the “mother” in the SS couple http://www.chromosomechronicles.com/2009/07/29/sexual-reproduction-for-same-sex-couples/
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That god’s a crafty devil, isn’t he?
Gods are just as crafty and just as stupid and just as horny as human imagination can make ‘em.
OK, lets have it the pigs way.
Is homosexuality a disease an illness and do homosexuals need medical assistance because of their sexuality?
Because sterility is consider to be a illness and people get medical treatment and try to cure it.
The pig just said that homosexuality is a disease and that afflicted people need to be cured.
“Because sterility is consider to be a illness and people get medical treatment and try to cure it.”
Not everyone would consider it an illness, and not all folks would necessarily care to seek treatment to cure it.
Not to mention the overall point of your comment is REALLY reaching. Have you ever read a comic strip before?
Here you go.
World Health Organization Defines Infertility as a Disease
I don’t think that homosexuality is a disease so i think that homosexuals can not compare them self’s with people who have an actual medical condition.
You read research as well as you do comics.
So, you REALLY think that the comic is saying that homosexuality is a disease? What about it makes you think that? Do you think the author is a homophobe? Do you think he was setting out to disparage gays? What do YOU think the point of the comic was?
The author is comparing homosexuality with infertility and sterility.
Therefore he is saying that homosexuality is a disease.
I will not speculate on authors intentions or attitude toward homosexuals. However I will notice that the point of the comic was stupid.
“The author is comparing homosexuality with infertility and sterility. ”
I’ve read it several times and I just don’t see it.
The Christian protagonist claims that gays shouldn’t be able to get married because they can’t have kids. The pig uses the example of sterility to show the insanity of that reasoning.
Nowhere does the pig equivocate homosexuality and infertility.
I would love to know how you are jumping to the conclusion that it does. Alas, you keep avoiding answering that explanation. Sigh.
Hound is projecting here. He or she obviously thinks that gay people are diseased and need cured.
Probably thinks that if they just pray hard enough, Jeebus will set them free.
What do you think the pig is trying to say? Why bring up the infertile people?
Way to answer a question with a question.
I JUST explained it. Did you not read my last reply?
He brings it up to show the logical flaw in the argument that gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry because they can’t have kids.
Really, it’s not that hard a concept to grasp.
No, that’s just wrong.
Infertile people can not have kids because they are ill and because of that they get a break (if you want to go in that direction).
Homosexuals are not ill and the same rules apply to them as to rest of us.
One more thing, homosexuals can get married, but not to a person of same sex. Just like the rest of us.
I don’t see why they should get and special treatment.
I am opposed to giving some one privileges just because on their sexual orientation.
“One more thing, homosexuals can get married, but not to a person of same sex. Just like the rest of us.”
Idiotic. Just like saying a black person can marry a black person therefore there is no reason to make interracial marriage legal.
Thanks for revealing yourself to not only being unable to reasonable comprehend simple logical principles…..but for being a complete and utter bigot as well.
“I don’t see why they should get and special treatment.”
Spoken like a privileged bigoted asshole. Well done.
“I am opposed to giving some one privileges just because on their sexual orientation.”
Equality isn’t special treatment. Dick.
Now, that was rude.
You ran out of arguments and started with insults.
OK, have it your way, it doesn’t affect me.
Only thing you have accomplished is showing your lack of manners and arguments.
Have a nice day
If it results in you leaving and taking your bigoted idiotic views with you, then I count that as a win.
I don’t care about your count.
But let me congratulate you on showing your true face.
You should learn to be more tolerant towards people who have a different opinion.
After all, we are not in Nazi Germany
I’m tolerant of different opinions. I welcome and embrace them.
I’m not tolerant of bigoted opinions that fail even the basic tests of logical consistency.
Do you really think that EVERY opinion immediately deserves respect?
Nazi Germany? Seriously?
Meanwhile, Minnesota is approving gay marriage today. Eventually it will be the law of the land and bigots like you are just going to have to get over it.
Lemmy, what is the point of same sex marriage? You can not have a family and for children sake I hope that you will never be allowed to adopt children.
Kids need a mom and a dad. So what is the point?
To make yourself feel better?
If you have problems with yourself go see a physiatrist or a psychologist
As I said before, I think it’s time to move on. You’ve made your points, and some have disagreed with you. Let’s leave it there, shall we?
“Lemmy, what is the point of same sex marriage?”
Equal rights for all.
“You can not have a family and for children sake I hope that you will never be allowed to adopt children.”
So you think gay people shouldn’t be allowed to adopt and raise children? Why not?
“Kids need a mom and a dad”
Yeah, look how horrible Obama turned out.
Gays being unable to procreate has NOTHING to do with same sex marriage.
That complete logical fail is also the entire point of the comic……which you still spectacularly fail to grasp. Amazing.
” I am free to state my opinion and there is nothing you can do about it.”
Yes, you are free to continue being a complete and utter bigot. Congratulations.
My mother was single and she raised me by herself.
Thanks for the discussion.
I think it’s time to move on, though.
May I ask what is the point of putting disease next to homosexuality?
Yeah mod!!! Why did you do that (even though it’s obvious to everyone else that you didn’t do that)????
I read through to comic three times and I don’t see disease and homosexuality written.
You’re erroneously focused on the issue of sterility being a disease. If I lose my balls in an accident, and therefore cannot produce sperm, it doesn’t make me diseased.
You are incorrect here. The point of the comic is brilliant in both its idea, and execution.
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